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Skybound Entertainment , the company behindThe Walking DeadandInvinciblecomic series and several of its adaptations , is fall to Brazil for Gamescom Latam 2024 . Two of its high - ranking members , the CEO David Alpert and the co - chairperson Jon Goldman will address a keynote speech during the event .
The idea is to talk about how Skybound is expatiate its informatics across multiple types of platforms and the challenges call for in not create only adaptation but develop products that share a universe but are not simple copy within other format . onward of the result and their presentment , Screen Ranthad the opportunity for an exclusive interview with Alpert and Goldman .
Telltale ’s The Walking deadened series is one of the most darling narration - found game ever . How well does it hold up when fan replay it ?
The Challenges Of Creating Content For The Same IP Across Multiple Platforms
Screen Rant : Having worked across the board with dissimilar data formatting for these pop IPs that everybody knows , what do you consider to be the most difficult part of conform a video show into a video secret plan now ?
David Alpert : Yeah , I think the independent matter with conform a show into a plot is line up the unique posture that you ’re plump to extend , right ? So what is the focal point ? How do you make it so that it ’s not 80s - mode where you ’re recreating the same experience that you had watching the show or watching the movie , but now you ’re just doing the same thing ? How does it add something to the experience of last in this world , correct ? Bruno , I do n’t know how familiar you are with , have you ever played the Telltale walk Dead plot ?
Yes , I have . I bang it a muckle .
David Alpert : Okay , great . So you get it . You were like , you do n’t require to enjoin the blind tarradiddle . You want to expand the macrocosm . How do we , you know ; there ’s a scene in that first episode where Glenn appear to have sex that it ’s in the same universe as Walking Dead , that it ’s contiguous . It gives you a sense of time and outer space and geography . But it does n’t inevitably say " oh , we ’re going to follow Daryl Dixon and Rick Grimes . " We ’re going to look at this new set of characters , right ? And that was really significant to us . We taste to do that in every one of our stories , diversify and enlarge the reality . How do you discover the thing that ’s authentic and constituent and makes the show so successful ? And how do you sort of transform that into a broad game ? That ’s really where we get .
citizenry say we ’re living in a gilt years of video recording game adaptations . What ’s your percept of that quote ? And how do you see that move forward now that games are a more consistently mainstream matter ?
David Alpert : So I completely disagree . I conceive we live in the poo - poo era for so long that we ’ve now moved out of the dreadful , and we ’re getting to a situation where there ’s been some really good unity . But I cerebrate it ’s like we ’re in the wrapping up , right-hand ? I really enjoy the Sonic the Hedgehog movie in part because I did n’t necessarily love the World of Warcraft picture show , right ? I give out from Warcraft where I ’m like , okay , I guess it ’s better than the Doom adaption . That ’s a pretty low bar in terms of what ’s go on there .
It reminds me so much of those early 90s and 80s adjustment of Marvel moving-picture show . If you depend at the original Punisher and Captain America , those were pretty refuse . And then you look at what they became later and that ’s such a monolithic translation . And I finger like that first Spider - Man picture , you ’re like , " oh , okay , they ’re pass to do something here . " That first 10 - Men movie : " oh , they ’re going to do something here . " And it was n’t until you reach that Iron Man pic where they introduced the MCU and you go , " oh , here ’s where we ’re going . " And I feel like we ’re on that road . We’re maybe a year , two or three years forth from the real Golden Age . But I cogitate there ’s still a lot more ground to go before we hit the Golden Age .
Telltale ’s The walk utter serial and Naughty Dog ’s The Last of Us games have remarkably alike post - apocalyptic heroine in Clementine and Ellie .
Jon Goldman : So I really liked Sonic 2.I did not like Super Mario as much as I expected to , for object lesson , because it did finger like a giant product placement fire hydrant . And I guess one thing I would just maybe try and parse a little routine is that a lot of people do adaptations . And that sort of implies that there ’s this sort of " master matter . " One thing we always say at Skybound is that there ’s not a primary and then a clustering of ancillaries . Everything ’s basal for us . The video game want to endure as a telecasting game , as a unique piece of content , because the fan like our universe and they do n’t think of it as primary , secondary , third ; like , " oh , this affair is just for do money . "
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They need it all to be good . And we ’ve taste to orchestrate our fellowship unlike others , where we do all these things natively and internally , as opposed to " we ’re a video plot company and we ’ve license out the moving picture right to somebody else . " We do it all ourselves and they all tolerate alone . There could be a biz , unlike the Telltale game , where it ’s just about the mechanics or something , because that ’s what we guess will be the most play for that character universe and that musical genre . So I think - I do n’t know if I ’ve captured the note completely , butI think adaptation is kind of an onetime - fashioned Bible for what we ’re trying to do , which is really interact with our fans about the universe all , wherever it make sense , whether comic , telecasting , video recording game , podcast , action figure , whatever it is , we ’re trying to have that lineal relationship with our fans .
20 or so years ago , we had all these blockbusters that then would become moving-picture show . And now what you are saying is you are deal game and movies and boob tube shows with the same horizontal surface of importance , and not just getting one hit and then transforming that into several other small things , veracious ?
David Alpert : Yeah , but I think that applies even broader , proper ? If you calculate at GI Joe and Transformers and comic book . We ’re last and address them like these are absolute gem and treating them the same way we would treat them as if we ’re pop a brand name unexampled narration , right ? So we ’re cognizant of the interview , we ’re cognizant of the fan base , we ’re aware of the story , we ’re aware how that audience mayhap had n’t been treated so well at certain periods of time , but there was a demand there . So we ’re going to give them the highest quality , the path that we would want to find transformer , the way we need to feel GI Joe , we ’re giving that to the interview as well .
Would you say that there are risk to this interconnection of universes across multiple forms of media that Skybound is work to accomplish ?
Jon Goldman : The danger is always execution risk . It ’s being seasoned enough to say no to something that is n’t secure enough or to learn from it . Now in video games , for example , game that are in live operations , you’re able to always improve . mass love The Walking Dead , they have it off zombies , they love zombie game , they have sex automaton everything . So execution jeopardy is something we can control because we ’re good at making stuff and have , like that ’s been our acquisition set perpetually . Figuring out what the proper thing to do is for the fans is really important . And increasingly , we ’re spending a mess of time interact with fan directly so that we can partner with them to give them what they want .
David Alpert : I suppose I would say a little differently in that I think the risk was always there , but because of the differences between the spiritualist , right , because of how siloed each media was . You were able to class of - if you had a skunk , you were able-bodied to separate of like cordon it off and the rest of the steel . gift that everything lives digitally now , there really is no fashion . So thwartwise - contaminant is not only probable , but it ’s inevitable . If you have a bad version of something , you will misplace fans . Your fans that would have come to you will go out because they will have institute they do n’t trust you .
Jon Goldman : They do n’t trust you .
David Alpert : That ’s veracious . So , you get it on , it ’s the same thing where movies used to spread out all the clip , or games used to sort of be grease one’s palms all the time , before the reexamination came in and people would then be stuck with , " oh , I went to Walmart , I grease one’s palms the secret plan , I ’ve move home . " And you ’ve gotten to the movie , you have it off , whereas now the Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic reviews come out and people make their determination without in reality having see the picture show or playing the game .
Jon Goldman : And you could cancel a digital thing at any point . If you ’re view Invincible on Amazon Prime , you could just click off it because you ’ve paid your subscription fee . And that ’s why it ’s so important to the extent that we actually establish our own animation studio and animated directly because we ca n’t rely on other hoi polloi . And it turn out amazing . And the fans seemed to hold that that ’s because of the grade of ascendancy and care that we demanded .
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We have Final Fantasy XIV , that game is really solid narratively because it ’s a 10 - year story , and then we have short games that take less than an hour to play , like Florence , which run into as hard as Final Fantasy XIV . I ’m wondering how you may reach that narrative level when you ’re accommodate stuff and nonsense from other mass medium into it . There ’s commonly this bound of interactiveness in TV game that does n’t translate to movies , comedian , and TV show .
Jon Goldman : So I think that does arrive back to if we ’re going to make a video plot , we ’re run to make a great video game , and luckily for what we ’re doing , the IP we ’ve develop over literally decades , we make out the universe really well , and we partner with the creators . Robert Kirkman ’s our third mate in the byplay , and is a very active , part of it . So we make the correct game , and if it [ needs ] a narrative element , it has a story component . If it has just nerveless mechanics , that ’s because that ’s what the rooter ’s go to want in a video game . Well , they cognize the narration from the amusing Quran and the television show , andI believe a lot of time game makers have peradventure misstepped in endeavor to pull the tale or done bad narration . So we try and cover each medium on its own , to be good on its own , but to sort of fit in the fantasy that the buff would have .
David Alpert : It ’s really important for us to connect in that specific agency , because I think if you look at something like Final Fantasy , all that narrative and make up is done inside of the plot itself . But if you ’re doing Final Fantasy 14 , you may or may not have played the previous 13 , so you still have to give them on - Allium tricoccum along the way . So we attempt to do the same thing , payoff fans who amount in from this as their first clash , but also give them that excitement of enounce , hey , we see you , we hear you , we recognise you , if you ’ve done everything inside of the universe that we ’re make in .
Now , 14 years down the road with Skybound , this has always been a part of your ethos , but how are you lurch your percept on how you produce these products today , as opposed to when you first started ?
David Alpert : Well , the remainder today is I think we ’re living in a world that ’s just make full with deal . So there ’s 13,000 young TV games that came out on Steam last year , right ? Growing up , there was whatever you purchase at the store , there were three web in the United States ; we grew up in a time of scarcity . Now you ’re live on in a time where you ’re contend against every song that ’s ever been free , you ’re competing against every picture show that ’s ever been made , every video game that ’s ever been made , plus all the new stuff that ’s coming out all the fourth dimension . You have to really examine the reason for being at a much deeper and greater horizontal surface than ever before , because the alternatives and the opportunities to not prefer your merchandise , whatever it is , are higher than ever before .
Skybound’s Presence At Gamescom Latam 2024
You are coming to Gamescom in Brazil next month . To speak a little bit about this , what can the world expect from your comportment , your tonic ? And I heard there are also teasers , what can they expect ?
David Alpert : Well , I think one of the biggest things and one of the large grounds we ’re coming is that we consider in Brazil , right?We think in Brazilian culture . For years , we ’ve had monolithic fans reaching out to us from Brazil about our properties , about Walking Dead , Invincible . Some of the most vocal fans in the humans are from Brazil . gratefully , we have Google Translate now , so that we can actually empathize a lot of what they ’re writing us , and they have a band of bully ideas . We love the fact that Comic - Con , the biggest Comic - Con in the world , is now in Brazil , and we want to be in business with Brazil . So , we require to be in business with video secret plan creators , screenwriters , television and moving-picture show yield company . We desire to find the next gravid endowment in Brazil and make a global hitting with Brazilian gift .
Jon Goldman : I ca n’t disagree . A mint of people do n’t realize we now have direct production in the Nordics , and we ’re producing a TV show in Japan . We give rise the big gain show right now on the intact continent of Africa . We ’re producing stuff in Spain . There is an audience , devotee all over the world , and interestingly , we in reality live in this unique period where the incredibly important marketplace in the U.S. is now watching subtitled foreign message . So , it can have global consequences in a way that was never potential before . Also , just being wholly true , I ’ve never been to Brazil before . I do n’t remember David has . I ’m pumped to visit and get it completely .
So , the idea is not just to showcase Skybound to Brazil , but in reality test to put in yourself in the marketplace here , find the great unwashed to help spread out the parole , let ’s say , the Holy Scripture of Skybound across the region ?
Jon Goldman : Yeah , and [ … ] I consider that dovetails about our total philosophical system . When you lecture about cook a picture game about walk Dead , we do n’t just try and do the licensed version of the same story . We ’re always trying to do new poppycock in the same way . We do n’t just desire to make the stuff we ’re already make . We ’re always looking for young , fresh chance .
David Alpert : The thing I would say is , given the sort of astonishing queer talent in Brazil , the population , the fast - growing nature of the thriftiness -we recollect it ’s highly probable that the next breakout , like Squid Game , and whether it ’s a TV show , movie , video recording biz , or whatever , it ’s very likely that it ’s going to come from Brazil . We want to be there , and we want to help that process along , and cooperator with , discover those great creators , and bring it out . We felt the best way for this to happen is for us to go to Brazil . They ’re like , " hey , you ’re Skybound , " - some of you know , some of you do n’t , but we believe in Brazil , we want to be in Brazil , we want to come here and meet you guys .
I ’m wondering if you have any other thought on Gamescom , your presence here , the tonic that you will be speak .
Jon Goldman : I think it ’s really awful when you derive from a position like the United States , where you believe , even if you know otherwise , that you believe you ’re the center of the universe , or this is where all medium happens . I think it ’s great to feel other places , find the excitement , and realize the creative energy that exists outside of the bubble we ’re in . And that ’s actually been our world power , is that we find Creator where other the great unwashed are n’t looking .
We ’re going to do this as a little bit . I ’m going to involve David Alpert , not now , but at the event , to secernate the floor of how we first run into Robert [ Kirkman ] and whatnot . Because David was appear at place that other the great unwashed were n’t looking 20 old age ago . That ’s kind of in our DNA , is that everybody ’s taking meetings in Beverly Hills , we ’re get to take meetings in Reykjavik , Iceland . Before you know it , we ’re adapting a Japanese manga with Swedish partners shoot in Iceland for distribution around the world . That ’s kind of what ’s unique about Skybound , is how we draw all these things together from places that other people are n’t necessarily looking .
David Alpert and Jon Goldman ’s keynote will take place on June 28 at the Journey 2 stage at Gamescom Latam . The issue itself will happen from June 26 to June 30 in São Paulo , Brazil .
